Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to episode 26, Kundalini Yoga for the Modern mystic with Haramon Jot. Haramon Jot is a devoted teacher, mystic and creative force. For nearly two decades, she has studied, practice and shared the sacred science of Kundalini Yoga with a mission to make these teachings accessible and transformative for modern life.
From 2008 to 2021, she was instrumental in opening and growing the three RAMA institutes in Los Angeles, New and Mayorka, studying under and working side by side with her teacher, the late Guru Jagat. With clarity, devotion and grace, Harumanjot guides others to remember who they are, to root into the earth while reaching for the galaxies.
In this expansive conversation, we explore the true power of Kundalini, not just as a practice, but as a sacred technology for awakening the soul's potential.
Harammanjot shares how this path has been a lifelong devotion and how it holds the capacity to transform your cosmic blueprint, helping you remember who you truly are. We speak about energy, discipline, grace, and the mystical intelligence that rises through the spine, guiding us towards our highest expression. Whether you're new to Kundalini or walking this path for years, this episode offers a really deep insight on reverence and inspiration. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it is deeply nourishing to your soul.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: Welcome, Haramonjot. I am so excited to have you here. I've been following your work for quite a while and I love listening to you because you always have this beautiful, raw, articulate way of speaking. And so excited to have this conversation with you today.
I would first love to start with how you have got to where you are today.
What has this path unfolded for you? And I would love you to touch on also on that journey around the identity shifts that you've experienced on your path.
And I'm sure you'll touch on how Kundalini has helped with that path.
But anything that you feel is relevant to where you are today.
[00:02:40] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here.
You know, it's really sweet.
I.
I love to serve all people wherever they are in their walk of life. I just, every time I go out to the.
Every time I go out, I'm always like, oh, I just love that person. I would love to help them, like, be more of themselves, you know, with Kundalini Yoga, like, I just love to serve people.
But I came to my practice when I was quite young. I was 22.
I had just graduated from college and I think that's a really. It's very sweet to me because it's such a tender age.
And I actually love specifically working with people of this age group. Although I love to work with men and women and non binary people of all ages. I really do. Any individual who crosses my path, I'm like, let's go.
But I do have a special place in my heart for the young person.
Because when you're young, you, you know, we spend. I hate to criticize institutions. I'm really kind of over criticizing things because how does that help at a certain point? Like, we gotta stop with the constant critique. But school occupies like 90% of your time growing up for 18 to 22 years.
And it trains for so many things. You can learn so many incredible things in school, but it doesn't train self knowledge and it does not train self connection and self value and self relationship. And so you go through school and you go through school and you're performing and doing this and that, and then you get out into the real world and you have no idea who you are.
So that was me like, oh my God, I'm freaking out, I'm freaking out. And I knew enough about myself that I wanted to be happy, you know, I really did. And I wanted to be truly happy. And so I didn't want to depend on any kind of pharmacology. I have no judgment on anybody who's doing that with their life.
I've seen it help a lot of people, but it wasn't something that I wanted to be with forever. I wanted to be actually happy. And I thought that it was possible. I couldn't imagine. I still can't, Tara. I can't imagine how one could be miserable the entire time one is alive. And I just didn't want to do it. So I started hunting. I started turning over the stones and looking for things that would work. And at the time, my vinyasa practice was what was giving me a lot of energy.
And I'm 6ft tall. People think that's so great. But I gotta say, at 22, it did not feel great. I was not loving that. And my vinyasa practice was like, oh, what gave me the ability to actually stretch into my body and think, oh, not so bad. So that was a bonus.
And it ended up leading me to Kundalini yoga, which then I took one class and I finally felt like I had landed. And I just thought, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to do this practice. And I didn't commit to being a teacher right away. I mean, I took my teacher training Right away. But I was nervous and shy and a little bit embarrassed still.
And so I wasn't ready to take on that identity of being a teacher. But about five years in, still working, still changing my life, still helping and healing and giving me a lot of energy. I just thought, this is the thing that I should give to the world. You have to give your best to the world.
This is the best that I got. So that's a little bit about my story and how I got here.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: I would love to ask you more about that first experience with Kundalini.
How could you. For the listeners that don't know the difference between yoga and Kundalini, can you explain your.
Not your definition, but your experience with that and the nuance? I guess.
[00:07:09] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. So I actually just filmed a video for this. I'm coming out with a beginner's introduction to Kundalini Yoga course.
And I was talking about the differences inside of the practices of what you would find in sort of your typical Western yoga class. And then you walk into your Kundalini class. I gotta be honest, when you walk into your first Kundalini class, it. It looks weird.
It looks very different.
The teacher is wearing a different outfit than you might have expected, unless you know what you're walking into.
There is more mantra than you would find in your regular yoga class. You know, after practicing for a while, it seems like a normal amount of mantra, but in the beginning, you're like, wow, these people love chanting. And actually, I do love chanting, but I didn't know that at the time. So there's more mantra, there's different. There's a lot more variety of breath than you find in your typical yoga class. But I would say the biggest difference is the postures. The asana, so to speak.
When you go into a regular yoga class, it's kind of. You have. There's a flow, there's warrior ones, there's some sun salutations.
In Kundalini yoga, you actually can get a lot of stretching and you can actually get a lot of body sculpting too, which is great.
But the focus is actually more on strengthening your nervous system and deepening your glandular system.
And to do that, you find some of these postures that look a little bit wild, funny, weird. You're like, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm doing this.
And some of them are actually really hard. They're very challenging. But what they actually do is they give you extraordinarily strong nerves. And you need a strong nervous system to be Stress, resilient, to handle the challenges of your life and to actually even circuit the energy of your own spirit. Your spirit, I think this is something that you kind of have to feel in your body, but your spirit has a lot of energy. Your. Your personality has a lot of energy.
And one of the reasons why people can't feel themselves, can't express themselves, can't, you know, you do you boo boo kitty. Like, people can't do that because they don't have the nervous system to even be themselves.
So when you're doing something that's weird or hard, it's important to remember, like, I'm strengthening my nervous system right now and I'm deepening my glandular system, which is going to give you the foundation for real longevity, opulent longevity. And it kind of gives you this crazy glow that, you know, everybody wants it, it's in all the magazines, but you actually can't buy.
Has to be generated from inside of you.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: Yes. I love that. When it comes to these practices, Haram and Jod, in my experience, some of them have had that intensity and really hard.
[00:10:31] Speaker C: Totally, yes. I mean, it's so funny because for listeners, this could either be scary or it could be more magnetic and enticing.
There are certain meditations and practices where you're literally holding your arm out parallel to the floor for 18 minutes. This particular practice that I'm talking about is actually about. It's called, like, stimulate your chakras and feel wonderful, which is just an amazing title for a meditation like, yes, I would like to do that. And you start to pick up the magnetic field of the earth with your arm, and it puts you into a really, like, sublime state. And then it awakens all of these beautiful colors in your aura, and you feel fantastic. But 18 minutes with your arm out, I mean, who wants to do that past 30 seconds? I certainly don't. I mean, I do, but.
But I do it in the context of the meditation. So, yeah, it is hard, but I actually find that people can jump right on in faster than they often realize.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: And with the practice, this is just my experience, but I always feel a lot of energy within my body. And a lot of the time I'll get really hot, like this energy rising.
And there's just something so powerful about it. But it really inspires me, your discipline and the mindset and your continuous coming back to the practice.
When you found Kundalini, was this something that you just automatically garnered that devotion or how did that grow for you?
[00:12:29] Speaker C: That's a really great question.
So I never considered myself to be a devotional person.
It just wasn't like a way that I thought about myself as a child.
I saw color fields when I would sing and I was really into the arts and just like, just really into feeling myself.
But you know, there are certain children who love to pray and talk about God. I was not one of those kids as far as I knew. Like I had a book of prayers, thought they were cool, but wasn't like all about it.
When I came to the practice, it was really about self healing. So first healing anxiety and depression and low self worth.
It was about feeling healthy inside of my body. That was something that used to ground that definitely I felt grounded me from sort of the more negative experiences that I was.
This audio was created with Podcastle AI from sort of the more negative experiences that I was having.
And I think I've always had an instinct for. I have though I haven't necessarily felt like a spiritual person. I always had an instinct for service.
Seemed something so important about taking care of one another. And I don't know if that's just feminine or if that's, you know, part of the dharmic calling that one sometimes gets inborn with.
But I certainly wanted to help people. That's what I always wanted to do with my life, is to help people.
So when the practice started to help me so much, the thing I wanted to do was to go out and give it to others. I was like, this is helping me like crazy.
The statistics on anxiety and depression and suicide for young people and all people, all people are going to crazy. The numbers are outrageous.
How could I not give this out? How could I not share this? So the discipline came from wanting to have the experience and it came from just a drive to. To take care of people.
[00:15:02] Speaker B: With this.
You speak about the grounding that this provided for you. I'd love for you to go into that because a lot of people can think of Kundalini really being from the head up. So I'd love you to go into more of that groundedness and coming back into alignment and that disconnection that you speak about and that anxiety in the collective.
I would really love to get your thoughts on.
Well, I think where we are and you would know from where we are in the Vedic astrology that we're in this pivotal point right now where I think a lot of people are going to come to Kundalini.
And yeah, I would love you to speak about how Kundalini can help with that alignment for it to help us come back in our body, rather than thinking of it as just an esoteric mind practice.
[00:16:02] Speaker C: Totally. Yeah. Yeah. So again, serving all people. Serving all people, no matter where they are in their timeline.
That said, we are at a space where sort of the younger generations are very sensitive and they know that they didn't come here to just sort of like, go to school, get a job, get married, have some kids, wake up at 40 and be like, whoa, did I want any of this? Like, what do I actually want?
So the practice creates. It's really mechanistic. This is why, again, I mean, you're talking to a real, like, lover here. So I feel silly sometimes with how much I love it. But the practice is mechanistic. When you strengthen your nervous system and you deepen your glands, it creates a space of calm so that your spirit, so to speak, can actually come out and start talking if you're worried about all the different energies that are flying around. And now we live in a time where, like, the computerized era is just on a major upswing and not going to back down and anytime soon. And with the upswing of technology, it just creates an increased pressure on the psyche and in the individual. And so you need tools that help you to, you know, handle the technology, but also create a safety inside of your body so that your spirit, your soul, your being can come out.
There's definitely a lot of esoteric inside of the yoga, but I also think that this is a part of a memory that the younger generations are. It's coming more naturally. Everybody is remembering that they're infinite. I think the anxiety comes from, well, how do I experience that? How does that become practical in my everyday? How do I take action steps based on that? And when you do the yoga, it becomes very practical. You can figure out how to apply the spiritual work into the everyday.
Does that make sense?
[00:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. I love how you've articulated that.
Beautiful.
When I first came across your work, I was listening to an interview that you did, and it has stuck with me to this day.
You said about. And obviously I'm paraphrasing here, I'm sure you said it in a much more articulate way, was that you love Kundalini and you're talking about Vedic astrology, which I know that you practice and I'd love to get into more of that. But you talked about how Kundalini actually can move the stars, and I loved that because I think a lot of people, and as you said, a lot of the younger generation is naturally attuning to things like Astrology, and it's becoming really popular.
But there can be this fatalistic tag that is put on it. And I can see sometimes people boxing themselves in it. And what I felt really liberating about what you said about Kundalini moving, moving the stars is that we really have the power and the energy to be able to generate and create and attract our desires.
So I have been waiting to speak to you about this phrase. So I'd love to get your interpretation of that and even the intertwining of Vedic astrology and Kundalini in your work. But yeah, I'd love to know your thoughts.
[00:20:21] Speaker C: Yeah, so there's an actual practice, there's an actual meditation that is for adjusting what one might call imperfections in the natal chart.
And I'm just trying to think of like the best way to explain the mechanics of it.
There's a relationship between the electromagnetic field and your mind. You have an electromagnetic field and you have a brain and you have emotions. You have hormones that creates emotions.
They are sensitive to the electromagnetic fields of the stars.
So each planet and even the whole universe has an electromagnetic field field. And the particular vibration or frequency on that planet has a different emotional effect. So that is why the electromagnetic field of the planet Venus has a vibration of love and beauty and also values and relationship and equanimity.
It's not the myth itself, it's actually the frequency. The effect that frequency has on your body, your biology, your mind and your energy system is going to feel like love.
And then the frequency that surrounds the planet Mars is different.
It's more action oriented. The effect it's going to have on you is more action oriented, more masculine, more yang.
The collection of planets in your charts.
Okay, sorry, because you asked me about two things and I'm like, no, no, you asked me with the one thing, can you move the stars?
The answer is yes and yes. Or is it just like you change your relationship? The answer is yes and yes. So you've got this birth chart and let's say you have, you know, some kind of square, some kind of opposition, some kind of thing that you went to an astrologer and they were like, well, you're cursed for life. You're never going to be happy that, forget that relationship, never going to have any prosperity. Your life is over.
Sorry, kid. You're like, oh my God, it's horrible. That's like the worst astrology reading you can get. I never do readings like that. I don't. They are not helpful at all.
So if you're Doing Kundalini yoga number one, you can change the relationship that you have with these positions.
And, and so if there's like a square, there's a way in which you can build the electromagnetic structure in your aura so that that relationship actually becomes a trine.
I hope I'm, I hope I'm making sense here.
If you have an opposition, there's a way that you can build a structure in your electromagnetic field that instead of those two forces being in opposition, they actually feel like they're a slingshot where they empower each other. You know, I have a.
What do I have? I have a moon opposite Jupiter.
So, you know, my expansion feels sometimes unsafe to the moon that just wants to, like, cuddle up and be like, you know, protected. Most people have that feeling that their expansion feels unsafe, but mine is actually in my stars as well. You can create a relationship where actually your coziness creates the ability for you to be expanded, and your expansion can actually be channeled back into the coziness. That's an electromagnetic structure in the aura.
But we didn't move any stars yet.
You can actually change the arrangement of stars. This is in the yogic text. You can, you can adjust the imperfections in your natal chart. You can actually move the stars. The stars don't always have to move the individual. And this is a different kind of power and perspective that most people aren't ready for or willing to admit.
And it's, it requires a lot of skill, and it also requires a lot of power, a lot of inner vitality and a little, a lot of power, but it can't be done on your hand. Also, you have the ability to move the planets. The index finger, com is, they call it the Jupiter finger. It channelizes Jupiter energy, but it also commands Jupiter. So you can move Jupiter around in the sky. Does it move it for everybody?
Yes and yes. Yes and yes. Yes, it moves it or yes, it moves it just for you? Yes, it moves it for the collective. We're all working this timeline together. This gets really far out. I hope I'm making sense here. Tara, just, just help me out here.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: I, I.
[00:25:46] Speaker C: So on the middle finger is Saturn. The ring finger is both Venus and the sun. And the pinky finger is Mercury.
The rest of the hand, we don't. In the vedic sciences, they don't work with the outer planets. Neptune, Uranus, Pluto.
They just work with the seven inner planets. But those are movable as well. Everything is movable. Yes.
The individual has the power and capacity to rearrange cosmic elements thank you for going into that.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: I love how you've articulated that because I think that astrology can become a limitation and that we're bound by that chart and this is what it says. Especially people will come to me, they've done their delving into their own chart and then I don't usually recommend that because, you know, we're subjective and we're seeing things and you know, maybe exacerbating, you know, difficult placements and things like that and then locking ourselves into what is achievable or what is possible and really using it as a guide rather than like this is.
So I love that expansive view of, you know, not being bound by it and having that ability to expand is. Is really important.
[00:27:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
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[00:27:20] Speaker B: Is really important.
[00:27:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: I would love to go back to your Kundalini and ask about your experience with Kundalini awakening and what has your experience been around this? Because I feel that some people are scared of this Kundalini awakening and that being a shock to the system.
But in your experience, has that been in a more quieter, subtler way?
And for those around you as well, could you like speak into what that Kundalini awakening is? Because I think there is a bit of misconception around it.
[00:28:15] Speaker C: Yeah. So you mentioned this earlier where you said that when you practice sometimes you get really hot and that is actually a sign of the kundalini rising. When the body heat goes up.
That means that the kundalini is rising and you're burning off sort of pathogens and. And things that don't pathogenic like things and materials, but also pathogenic ideas, pathogenic thoughts which would be self limiting thoughts. Anything that doesn't contribute to the real you being expressed.
You know, there's a couple of things. There was a book, a really old book about an individual who had. Who was using Kundalini Yoga without guidance or not Kundalini Yoga. He was using some Kundalini practices without guidance and he awakened his Kundalini and then he had a really bad experience experience and he wrote a whole book about it. This is a very old book too.
My experience is that Kundalini Yoga is a system, a very precise and perfected system so that you're not releasing tons all at the same time. You're not releasing like crazy amounts of energy. You're actually releasing just, just a little bit, just a little bit up the spin spine every practice. And in that way it's part of what gives you the energy and the vitality but it also grows your energy over time.
At the same time, this practice is all about strengthening your nervous system so you have the capacity to handle more energy.
I also just love that the practices are adaptogenic and self regulated.
You could go, I have never done this myself because I got into this yoga so young that I didn't. And I was so focused on deep study and scholarship and attainment in this particular system that I didn't really have time to like explore a bunch of other modalities.
But I've heard about other modalities where somebody stimulates your kundalini either by hand or by shakti pod or whatever, or by non touch. They, they raise the kundalini for you.
I can see some benefits in that certainly. Especially if you're in a very weakened state and you don't have any energy. Having somebody help guide the energy for you can be very, very healing. And it's nice to receive healing from another person.
But what I like about Kundalini yoga is that it's self stimulated. So if you need to stop, you just stop. You're never going to open overload your own system because you can self regulate, whereas somebody who's not inside your body does not know how to regulate for the amount of energy running through you. So there's a lot of mistakes that can happen in those kinds of systems as well.
So when you strengthen your nervous system, you're always going to have the capacity to run more energy. We're actually releasing only a little bit at a time. You're in charge, you know. Most teachers I find are pretty like whip crackery because you got to motivate people sometimes. So you might feel like the teacher's yelling at me, I have to keep going. But that's not true. You don't have to keep going. You actually have to work inside of your own system with what feels good to you.
And then there will be these moments where you release a big pop of energy and then you need time for integration.
That's when you rest, you take a warm bath with some Epsom salts, you take a walk in nature. You find lifestyle ways to integrate that energy. But I've never actually met someone who practiced this particular system and overloaded themselves. Typically whenever I meet someone who says that happened, there were other things involved, like they were doing recreational drugs which is going to totally wreck your nervous system, or they were really doing something else. They were doing maybe another kind of medicine at the same time that the two systems can be compatible. But you can't say that which one was the one that overloaded the system?
[00:32:45] Speaker B: Yes. Thank you for explaining that.
And I just wanted to go back and ask you one more question about tying in Kundalini with Vedic astrology.
I noticed that your work.
You work with Vedic astrology, but a lot of Kundalini teachers still practice Western astrology. I would love to know how you came to that, because I find that quite unique and why I particularly really admire your work.
[00:33:19] Speaker C: Thank you. Yes, I did want to talk about that because there's so much to discuss that I'm just sort of going with what's coming out. But the Vedic astrology.
So first of all, I just find sometimes when people have bad reading, they're actually not reading the right chart.
I have found that some people have activated their Western chart more than others.
Actually, I can think of specifically Megan, the Duchess of Sussex. I was looking at her chart. She's, you know, trending right now.
Not in the best ways, in some ways, but I, you know, I feel a little bad. I just. I can't believe how cruel people can be. I really can't. Whether you like what she's up to or not, I am just stunned by. By how people are so mean. I can't believe it. But in that case, I was looking up her chart, and she has her Western chart. You see her activating her Western chart more. She's got strong Leo energy.
She has a Mars in cancer. She really likes the stuff. She really likes homemaking. She really likes being a mom. She really likes caretaking. So I was a little surprised to see that because for the most, most part, I find that people are more accurately represented by their Vedic chart. And I know that to be true for myself that for about 20 years, or maybe it's more like 18 years, I was working with Western astrology.
I never resonated as my sun sign. I was just like, I was a sun, you know, a Western Taurus.
People have all kinds of projections and ideas about me, and they're like, oh, Taurus fits because of this and that and the other thing. But internally didn't fit. I did not really resonate with, like, luxury or food, any of it, or laziness.
Internally, I resonate as an Aries, which is like, I am ambitious and I am right in your face. And I am, like, very, very ready to start something new. Always very entrepreneurial.
And my shadow side isn't laziness. My shadow side is competition. That's the truth.
It's not a great shadow to have, but at least I can be Honest about the shadow. I actually have.
So I had a couple of Vedic readings, and because I was still learning Western astrology, and I was inside that system and I was learning about the stars, and I couldn't really switch systems. So for those 18 years that I was using Western, I learned a lot about the stars and I gained a really deep relationship with the way that the planets work, and I gained a deeper. I think I helped myself a lot, and I think I helped a lot of people using that system. But when I had come to a kind of culmination point in my life, I had a Vedic reading and I realized I was like, here it is.
I'm an Aries. There we go. I can jump onto this system now. And I just see more and more that people are most accurately, for the most part, their inner spirit is most accurately reflected. That's been my experience by the Vedic chart. I can also say that about JFK Jr.
His Western chart functions. You can totally see it. But his Vedic chart really speaks to the way that people perceive him in his soul. Like, he actually is into justice, and he does care about helping all people. And I'm not even like a big stumper for the guy. I'm not a major fan. But when I looked at the Vedic chart, I just thought, wow, he is who he says he is.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: This makes sense.
[00:37:33] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
So that's my feeling, you know, I mean, I have. I hate to start an argument with people, so, like, when I have colleagues that still use the Western chart, I'm just always like, sure, whatever you say, man. But that is not. For the most part, I. I observe a different reality that is more accurately reflected by the Vedic chart.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: Yes. And this is what I think is so important and why I personally had a bit of a resistance to the Kundalini, because the Kriyas and everything like that really resonated with me. But then the interjection with Western astrology was always a bit confronting because it wasn't the system that I was using anymore.
And so, yeah, when I see teachers like yourself very far and few in between, I think it is, yeah, where we're heading, where we're going. And I think, again, being that Aries, the pioneer, you're first on the first trend.
[00:38:44] Speaker C: Definitely, definitely. Just right out there.
I don't. You know, I. I'm with you with that. You know, it's really.
It's a really interesting thing.
Again, I also. Oh, this is what I was gonna say. I. I feel as though your listeners are very intelligent, so. But I'M always like, how much can you say without confusing people?
You know, time is a very funny thing.
And the timelines, I think people are getting more and more sensitive to them.
And I like to be on soul time.
I want to be on my soul timeline.
And there are some things that I see playing out in the western chart. Like when Pluto went into Aquarius in the western chart in the fall, I did observe a lot of crumbling of the patriarchy, so to speak. And I was surprised because I thought, oh, I guess the Western chart has some relevance. So there is a timeline in which the western chart is functional.
I don't find it to be resonant with my particular soul's energy. So I prefer to work on a soul timeline because I'm going to have a. I'm going to have a more satisfying experience if I'm working from my soul.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Yes. And I often think about that, I think because western is so mainstream, I wonder as well if it is that collective energy that giving it more.
[00:40:32] Speaker C: Energy in the field.
[00:40:35] Speaker B: For that timeline as well. So, yeah, that is something that I think about.
[00:40:40] Speaker C: Yeah, like a false construct just created by collective agreement.
[00:40:44] Speaker A: Yes. Yes.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: I would love to ask you about your business journey. Haramanjot about.
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[00:41:01] Speaker B: Business journey Haramanjot about.
You spent a lot of your, I guess you could say career building the Rama Institute and working very closely with Guru Jagat. And now I see you on your own trajectory building your business.
What was that shift like for you in identity and also.
[00:41:34] Speaker C: How.
[00:41:36] Speaker B: Yeah, how is that working? Because I think it's such a different energy behind building a organization and then you importing that for yourself.
How. How has that been with that, that difference for you?
[00:41:57] Speaker C: Well, it's really interesting because.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: For me.
[00:42:02] Speaker C: It was always about mission.
And when I was working for Guru Jagat, I was, I felt very much on mission.
I loved Guru Jagat so much.
We just had such an incredible time together and she was such a powerful and amazing human being. And I spent with her was wonderful. Even the hard times, even the moments that were challenging were really, really just special.
I felt so fortunate to be able to help build the Rama Institutes with her. We had four different studios and in the end we had three. So that was Rama Los Angeles, Rama Boulder, Rama New York and Rama Mallorca.
It was so much fun to be that engaged in both spiritual work and real time business was incredible. And to be able to do that with her was so much fun.
Helping to write Invincible Living was incredible.
Just like you know, helping to create the curriculum for all of our courses was amazing. It was so great. And then when she died so suddenly, oh my gosh, it was the strangest thing that in the one moment I felt completely stunned, and in the next moment I felt completely liberated at the same time, and when I checked in with myself and also with the space and the time, I recognized that my mission would not continue to be with Rama, that I actually had to go and build something else.
So it was a very, very painful and challenging departure because my friends were there, my spiritual community was there. Everybody that I loved and spent like a decade and a half working with was still there.
But I had to follow my soul's calling and I had to build differently.
And I had always wanted to have a business that was mine because I really do think that entrepreneurship, female, female, run and owned businesses, but also not just women, but individuals who want to run their own business. I think this is really important and will continue to be important. It's okay to work for somebody else. I worked for somebody else for 13 years and I had an amazing time and I accomplished my personal mission and was able to serve in a really great way. So I don't think that everybody has to run their own business. And I don't think that working for somebody else is like, lowly in any way. But I do think that for me it was important. It's really that Aries archetype was important to do something that was mine on my own and to apply the things that I had learned so that I could help others who were going to be running businesses in that same same way. And running a business from a. From an integrity space is a really unique new frontier that I wanted to be a part of.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: And I wanted to touch on with you the idea of mentorship and having someone to anchor you, especially speaking to that 22 year old that is really wanting that guidance.
And I feel, you know, women like yourself really being that beacon of, you know, wisdom and experience.
And how much has mentorship been through your life?
And yeah, do you think that is an essential part of this journey? And in business, it's such a great.
[00:46:36] Speaker C: Question, you know, I do, yes. And yes, again, I do think that mentorship is essential in a certain way.
How else are you going to learn?
And I have had such incredible mentors. Obviously, Guru Jagat was a significant mentor in my life and she was also my, you know, spiritual teacher. But I am not, have not been done having mentors. People that I learn from, people that I look up to.
We all want someplace to grow into and having somebody who you can, you know, access their wisdom and experience from that, that is invaluable in, in a self growth, in a self growth path, in a self path of trajectory of self growth. At the same time, I think we are definitely in a timeline and a landscape where being anchored and rooted in yourself is more essential than ever. And certainly there's a mentor who can help you with that. That is actually how I like to guide and hold people, is to anchor them deeper and deeper inside of themselves so that you can be self led and self determined. You want a self determined life.
So having a mentor doesn't replace your intuition, it doesn't replace your instinct, it doesn't replace your self authority or your sovereignty.
But I think the two work in tandem because as a sovereign person with self authority, you might want to pick up something from somebody who's got something going on that you also want to do. So I've been fortunate to have good mentor mentors and I also, I actively seek them out.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: Yes, I think that is so important. And I, you know, especially for that younger woman, like looking up, I know like my age now I'm looking to the older women, like older than me for their wisdom.
And I'm not seeing them as present or available.
It's like they're hiding their wisdom.
And I've been sort of like doing this call, like call out like where are these women?
Where is the wisdom?
And so I think you, yeah, shining your wisdom and your experience and you walking the walk with children and partnership and all layers of life you're really living into.
And so yeah, I think that is something that I've, I've loved about your work. And every time that I, I see you online, there's, there's an incredible depth to, to your knowledge and, and who you are, which is, yeah, very magnetic.
[00:49:54] Speaker C: Thank you. Yes, I do. Yeah, I do have two kids, four and six and a half. And I am, I am a one of those married types.
So I have a relationship, a marriage that I have to work on because those things are not set in stone. You have to work on those things. It's an interesting thing. I do. I often, I'm more gravitated towards women who are age 50 and above because I find them more interesting.
[00:50:22] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:50:23] Speaker C: Because they have life experiences.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: Me too.
[00:50:26] Speaker C: So I have a lot of friends in their 50s and I have a lot of friends in their 70s, female friends in their 70s because they have something interesting to say and to share and and it's really valuable to be in relationship to them.
[00:50:41] Speaker B: Yes, yes, definitely.
[00:50:44] Speaker C: I.
[00:50:45] Speaker B: On that tone. I wanted to ask you about your philosophy on aging and your philosophy also on beauty.
I know that Kundalini definitely gives that inner glow, and I guess that you're, you know, an example of that.
But, yeah, I'd love to know how the practice has made you think about aging, how the aging process has been for you as a woman, as the feminine and.
Yeah. What is. What is your philosophy?
[00:51:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll be really transparent. I would say I was surprised to find that I was not excited about aging.
So when I started to see.
And actually, I don't know why they're not showing up on camera, which is nice for me, but there's like a. It's a heavy gray situation on the under. On the undergrowth.
I have not bothered to color my hair.
I just decided I wasn't going to. I just was like, nah, I'm not doing it.
But when I started to see them, I got. I had a lot of anxiety just. Just in full transparency. I was not thrilled to see this happening.
And it surprised me because I didn't think that. That I was that attached to the Western version of what a woman is supposed to look like and how she was supposed to age. But it had actually gotten to me.
So it's an interesting process to start to detox and deconstruct these ideas of what we're supposed to look like.
I find that more and more actually always that the more interesting human being is the person who's less concerned about their external and more real and expressed with their identity and their integrity and their character. I'd much rather hang out and talk to somebody with a lot of character than hang out with somebody who has perfect skin. It just isn't interesting. There's nothing beyond it.
So that said, being a woman, you care about how you look. And there's something really divine femme about beauty.
And so I've been really loving the practices of Kundalini Yoga because they actually do set you up for a really beautiful, radiant way to move through time.
You can repair. This is my next. Hopefully I get to it. I've got so many things on my.
On my course creation docket, and I'm like, man, I gotta do the. I have to redo infinity Ma. I have to do the business teachings. But on my docket is yogic beauty secrets. Because a lot of the time, the way that the face particularly changes is actually based on the thought form. You would never think this but your thoughts create a way in which you hold your face.
And if you hold your face in a certain shape for a while, it's going to create creases in the skin.
So when your mind is more plastic and supple and flexible, and you have less gripping thought forms, less ideas about who you are or who you're supposed to be, then the musculature in the face starts to relax, and then the skin starts to relax as well. And then we do all of these.
This audio was created with Podcastle. AI starts to relax as well. And then we do all these glandular serum pumping exercises that starts to literally fill in the creases in and your wrinkles go away. It's really, really quite amazing.
So there's a one meditation that I love particularly, and it is this meditation and you do it over and over again.
And it's for just detoxing all of these wrong ideas about yourself, all these negative thoughts that we carry around with us. This hypnotizes it out of you. And at the end, you visualize yourself as a baby. Somewhere between ages 0 to 7, you visualize yourself as a child and you become that child. So you actually, you know, de age yourself.
There are some tech influencers who are like, I'm the most biologically young person in the. On the planet, but I'm like, you ain't met my friend so and so from Kundalini Yoga because she looks amazing and you kind of look scary.
So I am also. So while I am personally deconstructing the Western concept of beauty and Right. Aging, and while I also would personally rather hang out with somebody who has a real identity over. Over somebody who's obsessed with what they look like, I'm also simultaneously grateful that there are so many practices inside of Kundalini Yoga that do regenerate your appearance so that you can feel pretty.
[00:56:34] Speaker B: Thank you. Please put that on your list.
That sounds.
[00:56:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: And with that, what would. What would you say would be your favorite thing about aging?
[00:56:51] Speaker C: I think it is this comfort with self and comfort with identity where you just over time and every woman says this. And I wish it wasn't so cliche, and I also wish we could get to it a lot earlier. But over time, you just stop caring so much about what other people think.
So you get to be your real self. And that is just a way more enjoyable space to be in. I just wish we could all get to that a lot earlier. I hate for it to take this much time.
So that's just for the Young women out there don't, don't take so much time just being you.
It's just such a waste.
[00:57:33] Speaker B: Yes, I, Yes, I completely agree. I, and thank you for the, the transparency as well.
If, what would your advice be to the younger version of yourself, 22 year old, what would that be? Would that be, you know, what you've said about not, not giving so much power to.
Yeah. Caring.
[00:58:06] Speaker C: I would say the self love, so funny. That's a real, that is a real mission that a lot of people are a part of and that doesn't dilute from the individual's engagement with it. But this, this quantum leap of self care, compassion, self love, it's enormous. It's so big and it's something that it needs a lot of people to keep pushing into the collective.
We are so hard on ourselves, we don't even recognize who we really are.
And I can just tell you all the horrible, mean things I said to myself, you know, age 22 and before and never really just loved myself, you know.
[00:59:02] Speaker B: Harimanjot, I'd love to just ask you about what is on your heart at the moment. I know that you have experienced recently the fires in LA and that devastation, rebuilding.
Are you seeing any gems that are alchemized from going through that experience at this time?
And where do you think that has pushed you and where is your current focus in your work as well?
[00:59:46] Speaker C: So I think that it's a really, I don't want to jinx it, but it's a real, really huge surprise that the fires were at to this date.
One of the biggest blessings of my life and that it was my immediate response.
It's a stunner and it's still pretty stunning.
I'm thankful I have practices that can continue to upgrade my nervous system so I can come back to present.
But we just left and we didn't go back. And that is quite surprising. My husband went back to our, to the site, to the back to where we were living to try and salvage some things and the crystals just crumbled in his hands. There was literally nothing left.
So we, when, you know, people say they lost everything we did, we lost terms of materially, we lost everything. We had a couple of suitcases in our cars and our kids and that's it.
And.
But it was the biggest blessing of my life and it, and it's surprising because this is why I don't want to jinx it for myself because I'm so happy actually that I'm like, don't, don't change my circumstances. I'm happy and also don't want to spook anybody. But the whole, you know, the universe works in mysterious ways. It actually put me on my destiny path. It put me exactly where I'm supposed to be, exactly where I'm supposed to be living.
The best way I could possibly care for my children, the best place I could possibly raise my family, it actually gave me, it took away, but it, what it took away was stuff I didn't need. I really didn't need it. It gave me so much. So I don't want to jinx it because I'm so, I'm actually so unhappy and I don't want to scare anybody because they're like, oh boy. You know, I don't want, I don't want tragedy to happen to me. But I think that's actually a real teacher because tragedy happens and, you know, you want to be strong enough to be able to handle it. You want to be strong enough to be able to feel all the feelings and go through all the emotions and still be. You still have, you still have your clarity of mind and your, and your groundedness.
And I think it's also a big teacher in, in, in real time life where I, I mentioned this on one of my own podcasts, but that we're in a time which what one would call poly crisis. You know, on the same day of the Los Angeles fires, There was a seven point. There was a 7.0 earthquake in Tibet, there was some other kind of natural disaster. I can't remember off the top of my head, but there are wars ongoing all over this place, planet. And, and we all. Everybody is empathic. You know, some people can numb themselves and some people can't numb themselves, but everybody is empathic. So we have an immense amount of stress on the planet right now.
So. And it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, that stress.
So having the capacity to metabolize, metabolize circuit be ground, it's having vitality is very important because you don't. I really don't want anything crazy to happen in your life, but you don't know when a fire is going to sweep through your city. And just now, even if we wanted to go back to the neighborhood where we were living, which we don't, we're very grateful to be living where we are living now, we couldn't go back. There's nowhere to go back to in that particular neighborhood.
So, you know, you don't know when that's going to happen to you.
I don't Want these things to happen to you. But wild, wild things are happening all the time.
Having the ability to be strong and strong does not mean impenetrable. Strong does not mean invulnerable. It just means capable. Here, present, you know, with it, with the moment, with yourself, with your partner, with your children, with this moment.
This is very, very important.
So it's, it's framed the practice in a, in a very practical way for me.
So, you know, imagine like, you know, it's like your job is falling apart, you're getting divorced, your kid is screaming. Like, these things happen in a life.
This is one of the reasons we definitely need Kundalini Yoga because life is very messy and very challenging.
So the practices became very, very useful in that way. And also, like I said, we are, we are happy, we are very, very grateful to be where we are.
So that was really sweet.
Thank you.
In terms of what's on my heart, I think that our, you know, just my main thing, if I was going to have like one takeaway, is just to tune people into, to create a space of sacredness.
The memory of the sacred is so. We have so few spaces to remember the sacred in.
And it's so glittering, it's so healing, it's so restorative and it's such a return to innocence where you can feel safe and sound knowing that you are a sacred being and held by a sacred universe.
[01:06:02] Speaker B: I love that dharmic mission.
And you have these, the, the Destiny Path, which is this introduction to Kundalini, which I would love to get the link for and I'll send that to my listeners because I think that would be something really beautiful and hopefully this yogic beauty offering will be soon to follow.
[01:06:31] Speaker C: Yeah, the Destiny Path is a just a very, very simple, clear explanation and introduction to the practices. Because Kundalini Yoga can look and feel, feel so different from other forms of yoga. I wanted to just orient people in a way that made them feel empowered and equipped so that whether they were taking a class online with me or somewhere in the world that they could have a really deep and rich experience, they felt confident walking into class.
And so it's very simple. The videos are short, like three to 10 minutes each, so you can move through the whole thing at a nice swift pace.
And, and it gives you, you know, a connection to the practices, but also, of course, a connection to yourself.
When the body is strong and the spirit is bright, that is a, that's called a destiny. So that's why I called it the Destiny Path.
[01:07:33] Speaker B: Thank you so much for your time and being such a vibrant light as well. And thank you for your work and everything that you're doing.
And yeah, I could. I've got so many more questions to ask you, but I want to honor your time. So thank you again for coming on Starbing and it's been such a delight.
[01:08:02] Speaker A: Thanks for tuning in to Star Being. May the wisdom shared resonate in your soul. Until next time, stay connected and keep reaching for the stars. This is Star Being signing off.
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